tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26428110.post3699715211941228042..comments2023-07-08T09:00:54.916-07:00Comments on A Common Reader: The Iliad discussion: Books IX - XIIDwighthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13688525659034403580noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26428110.post-35104692906554791452010-06-27T07:19:21.123-07:002010-06-27T07:19:21.123-07:00Bill, in case I haven't done so already, thank...Bill, in case I haven't done so already, thanks for your comments.<br /><br />Odysseus seems to be a choice for two reasons. First, his reputation for cunning and wit should have helped in swaying Achilles. But he seems to be phoning his speech in to Achilles, almost as if he doesn't care if he rejoins (at times that's how it seemed to me). The second reason would be that each man was chosen to appeal to a different aspect and Odysseus makes perfect sense for the military angle. <br /><br />I guess there are more reasons, such as Odysseus making a good foil for the speech Achilles responds with.Dwighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13688525659034403580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26428110.post-56801206764143157132010-06-25T17:49:07.458-07:002010-06-25T17:49:07.458-07:00In "The Best of the Achaeans" Gregory N...In "The Best of the Achaeans" Gregory Nagy has some interesting observations on the embassy. Nagy believes that Achilles didn't like Odysseus. He suggest that Achilles snubs him all through the embassy by using the dual tense when speaking to them instead of the plural. This makes since particularly when Achilles talks about them (Ajax and Phoenix) being old friends. Why would Agemmenon said the one guy that everyone else knew was the worse choice?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11216523923707900157noreply@blogger.com